the story...
adam's rotors started out small and remains that way...a tight knit company.
the small California based outfit is privately owned & operated and prides itself with it's one-to-one interaction.
this creates only the best service with quick responses even faster built to order set-ups.
with top notch product, this lends hand to their success thus far...
working 24/7 throughout the day, any and all questions are answered within the hour to the best of DBC & AR's ability, if not instantly.
being an online company, AR does business direct via email, instant message, PM, and over the web in the ever growing threads...google and see for yourself!
adam's rotors expertise is in the VW/audi market, but often do set-ups for other makes & models. they can build ANY rotor for ANY car to factory dimension. just ask!
DBC Performance has the VW market exclusively for AR distribution and is a stocking retailer for a select few applications.
we choose our relationships wisely as quality, performance, fit, & finish is key...AR & DBC was the perfect match.
adam's rotors chooses to only advertise directly thru audizine.com and here on vwvortex w/DBC for their continued support and monumental importance to the VAG community.
over the last 4 years, these audi threads have helped build the business...and is where AR is rooted:
1. v.1
2. v.2
3. v.3
4. current v.4
...now, DBC is both excited and honored to bring this product to VWOC and serve the volkswagen community!
adam's rotors
the info...
these are custom made, per order...you'll have them in about 2-3 weeks...
(this takes in account for ordering parts, shipping time to AR, machining, dipping/hub painting, pkging, and shipment out to you!)
stocked application will of course ship within 2-3 days, but custom orders drop ship directly from adam's rotors in CA.
these are one-piece units, built to OEM dimensions, top quality pieces, PER vehicle. these are plug n play direct fit replacements.
...AR ONLY makes rotors to OEM sizing, so they are built to a particular vehicle, based on year, model, engine, drive, etc. from a spec book. ANY MAKE...ANY MODEL
DBC often builds "OEM+" BBK and AR has no problem meeting these needs.
we can use a larger OEM application rotor no problem, so just let us know your plans...
for machining, you tell DBC how you want them!
-dimpled
-drilled
-slotted (most recommended for both quiet braking and optimal performance)
-dimpled/slotted (unique option. few offer this...)
-drilled/slotted (best looking combo)
-NEW: drill/drill/slot (a twist to a classic)
-EXCLUSIVE: race
-EXCLUSIVE: street
-plain
-double row/extra machining (dimpled or slotted only)
silver with rust free zinc finish is STANDARD on all orders. this is a corrosion protection process/measure...
BUT:
*COLORED ZINC:
gold zinc or black zinc finishes are a subtle, unique, aesthetic touch for your rotors, very few offer!
swap silver w/black or gold for +$25
OR
*NEW OPTION-painted hubs:
this gives the looks of a 2 piece rotor (similar to a brembo floating rotor for example) and also the general end results of a black zinc dipped rotor.
this is what AR often does to match/mimic the look for a brembo bbk up front. the rotor is still standard silver zinc dipped, with a base and clear coat painted hub/hat.
available in both black OR red for +$50
ONE (1) YEAR exchange warranty for:
manufacture defects per rotor...on all orders!!!
the machine styles:
BRAND NEW AR EXCLUSIVES-
"race"
"street"
NEW AR MACHINING-
the NEW drill/drill/slot w/black hubs:
AR CLASSICS-
drilled & slotted w/black hubs:
slotted only w/black zinc:
dimpled & slotted w/gold zinc:
drilled only w/STANDARD silver zinc:
adam's rotors
FAQs...
AR recommendations:
-slotted only if your purely concerned with performance gain
-drilled/slotted, drill/drill/slot if you want the 'look" too.
-be sure to check out the NEW patterns: drill/drill/slot or EXCLUSIVE AR patterns: race & street
-if you want the drilled look get drilled. tho dimples are a great, unique, safe alternative to drilling they can cause noise when driving/braking...if your looking for something different and safe, get dimples.
-utilize the silver zinc thats included in price and add the black hubs for a clean finish. it’s better then black zinc and its a great detail behind a nice wheel and painted calipers. also offered in red as well.
bedding:
after EVERY new brake job is complete, immediately after installation is wrapped up, the brakes must be broken in...
especially when swapping both the rotors AND pads, this is a crucial step in not only prepping both surfaces for a strong bite and safe braking, but will avoid sound issues, (covered next below) promote even wear, and all around smooth, clean, correct disc brake function.
high speed pulls to hard tapping stops on and off the pedalx10 followed by high speed pulls to hard lock-up stopsx10 will heat the rotors up, burn off the top layers of both the pad and rotor, and truly avoid any glazing concerns...this can cause hard/bad shaking, skipping of the rotors, along with loud noise, and an inefficient disc brake set-up.
basically, beat the hell out of them right off the bat and let them cool with the brakes released and NO e-brake to avoid warping (like after any hard driving)
sound:
it's just the dimples/drills. there is no reason the sound should be anything but mild. pleasant even. a bad bed, cheap pads, or an improper install could cause anything loud. AR has ran these on their past 4 cars and there is a faint click or tap due to the chamfered holes and drilled solid rear discs. almost like locust but it's nothing obnoxious.
AR has sold hundreds of sets with many happy customers. drilled should cut down on this more so then dimples, but not completely...
again, the bedding process which should be done right then and there upon install can drastically efect stopping power and sound.
high speed tap braking. and a full 0-30 pulls and slam on brakes to 0mph is key...
with dimples primarily, some applications can be noisier then other (R32s in particular) as the air can be trapped between the dimple pocket and pad when driving (braking or not) and cause the popping or "locust like" sound.
worried about it? run slotted only or the exclusive AR race pattern for quiet & performance.
dimpled vs. drilled:
a drill hole is well, a drilled through hole and a dimple...is a dimple. both forms of rotor machining have zero effect on daily driven performance/stopping, and same for most track driving to be honest. new age pads don't create the gas that drill holes are meant to break up and dissipate. now slots, are where we see the benefit. these disperse heat and keep the rotor surface cooler then a blank rotor, and cool brakes is good thing. i do 50% of my orders dimpled/slotted as mentioned. its a unique face style many manuf. do not offer, its gives the look we all want, and no chance of cracking like some drill holes do. we chamfer both our dimpled and drill holes to prevent this, along with warranty, but is still peace of mind...the only other concern is sound (as covered above) that dimples can throw (more so then drilled but both can) due to the pockets "trapping" air between the dimple/drill and pad face.
colored zinc:
the colored zinc will only remain on the NON-pad contact areas. the face of the rotor will obviously wear silver instantly upon the initial bedding process after install, leaving a very subtle accent color (and rust protection) on the remainder of the rotor. (hub/hat, dimples, slots, vents, etc.) this is a brake rotor with pad on metal surface, there is no other option...this is like ANY zinc dipped corrosion protected rotor, but with black/gold, has a very nice touch behind a custom wheel/painted caliper.
(Click image for more information or to order)
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click HERE for the full AR catalog
...or check out all of these available VW applications:
-B5 passat 1.8t
-B5 passat
-B6 passat/CC 2.0t
-B6 passat/CC 3.6 FWD
-B6 passat/CC 3.6 AWD
-MK4 1.8t/VR6
-MK4 20thAE/GLI/337 1.8t
-MK4 R32
-MK5 2.0t
-MK5 2.5L/TDI
-MK5 R32
-MK6 2.0t
-MK6 2.5L/TDI
-MK6 Golf R
-new beetle 1.8t/2.5L
-EOS
-tiguan
These look very cool
08 GTI / 90 Miata / 00 S2000
Feel your ball
black zinc will not fade into silver right? dust free too?
It's just a coating and will burn off during bedding most likely.
YepOriginally Posted by AR@DBCPerformance
^ yes, but that's how zinc works on any rotor, and what it's for.
please note, zinc is a corrosion preventative, so the REMAINDER of the rotor does in fact stay coated and in this case, gold or black.
the hub, vents, slots, dimples retain the coating/color/rust prevention.
rust cannot harm the rotor face (where is wears away from pad contact) as it is constantly turned as you brake and daily drive.
SElover: dust has nothing to do with rotors...rather the pads you choose to run
So I was reading DBCperformance page about your rotors. What are the benefits/drawbacks of slotted and drilled rotors? I noticed some specific comments listed about cross drilled rotors when dimples were mentioned.
The only thing I saw listed was addressing sound from dimpled/drilled rotors.
Last edited by kiserhd; 07-07-2010 at 12:23 PM.
these are adam's rotors...we're DBC
the information listed, is what you'd refer too, same info posted above.
there are no drawback per say...the benefits are added cooling properties of slotting.AR recommendations:
-slotted only if your purely concerned with performance gain
-drilled/slotted, drill/drill/slot if you want the 'look" too.
-be sure to check out the NEW patterns: drill/drill/slot or EXCLUSIVE AR patterns: race & street
-if you want the drilled look get drilled. tho dimples are a great, unique, safe alternative to drilling they can cause noise when driving/braking...if your looking for something different and safe, get dimples.
-utilize the silver zinc thats included in price and add the black hubs for a clean finish. it’s better then black zinc and its a great detail behind a nice wheel and painted calipers. also offered in red as well.
bedding:
after EVERY new brake job is complete, immediately after installation is wrapped up, the brakes must be broken in...
especially when swapping both the rotors AND pads, this is a crucial step in not only prepping both surfaces for a strong bite and safe braking, but will avoid sound issues, (covered next below) promote even wear, and all around smooth, clean, correct disc brake function.
high speed pulls to hard tapping stops on and off the pedalx10 followed by high speed pulls to hard lock-up stopsx10 will heat the rotors up, burn off the top layers of both the pad and rotor, and truly avoid any glazing concerns...this can cause hard/bad shaking, skipping of the rotors, along with loud noise, and an inefficient disc brake set-up.
basically, beat the hell out of them right off the bat and let them cool with the brakes released and NO e-brake to avoid warping (like after any hard driving)
sound:
it's just the dimples/drills. there is no reason the sound should be anything but mild. pleasant even. a bad bed, cheap pads, or an improper install could cause anything loud. AR has ran these on their past 4 cars and there is a faint click or tap due to the chamfered holes and drilled solid rear discs. almost like locust but it's nothing obnoxious.
AR has sold hundreds of sets with many happy customers. drilled should cut down on this more so then dimples, but not completely...
again, the bedding process which should be done right then and there upon install can drastically effect stopping power and sound.
high speed tap braking. and a full 0-30 pulls and slam on brakes to 0mph is key...
with dimples primarily, some applications can be noisier then other (R32s in particular) as the air can be trapped between the dimple pocket and pad when driving (braking or not) and cause the popping or "locust like" sound.
worried about it? run slotted only or the exclusive AR race pattern for quiet & performance.
dimpled vs. drilled:
a drill hole is well, a drilled through hole and a dimple...is a dimple. both forms of rotor machining have zero effect on daily driven performance/stopping, and same for most track driving to be honest. new age pads don't create the gas that drill holes are meant to break up and dissipate. now slots, are where we see the benefit. these disperse heat and keep the rotor surface cooler then a blank rotor, and cool brakes is good thing. i do 50% of my orders dimpled/slotted as mentioned. its a unique face style many manuf. do not offer, its gives the look we all want, and no chance of cracking like some drill holes do. we chamfer both our dimpled and drill holes to prevent this, along with warranty, but is still peace of mind...the only other concern is sound (as covered above) that dimples can throw (more so then drilled but both can) due to the pockets "trapping" air between the dimple/drill and pad face.
slotting helps dissipate heat under heavy/hard braking conditions to slotted only or AR race is best for performance applications.
it also avoid glazing, and provides a clean & classic look.
normal daily use and fun street driving can utilize any of the 9 patterns, so pick the one you like best!
I thought you were Adam's Rotors @ DBCPerformance with AR@DBCperformance and the avatar setup. Hence the questioning being directed at you and not DBCperformance.
Do you happen to have weights for individual rotors 312mmx25mm (GTI front vented rotors)?
And perhaps the most important part. Do you include Adam's Rotor stickers with purchase of rotors?
Thanks for all the info.
^ well i only handle AR sales...we're exclusive dealers of adam's rotors for the VW market.
it's a great product, huge following, and a small thriving company we fully support/back...we've had a great time partnering up with them.
weights, no...because adam doesn't sell these as lightweight alternatives, there's no need.
the blanks used start out a bit lighter and obviously a bit more after machining, but nothing to brag about.
being that there are so many applications & options it all varies and not worth posting.
AR stickers can be had direct from adam...PM me your address and i'll fwd it over or shoot him and email titled sticker: adamsrotors@me.com
some product photo of the AR classics in good ol' silver zinc w/black hubs:
dimpled/slotted-
slotted only-
drilled only-
happy monday!
This kit is a brilliant option for MK4 & Beetle customers who are willing & wanting to upgrade their brakes to larger 20th Anniversary/337 Edition/GLI front rotors.
Our calipers carriers from MK1 Audi TT/A8's allow customers to use VW GTI 20th/337 Edition 312mm (12.3") rotors.
This is a great way to maintain OEM quality and still get significant improvement on budget.
(click image to order)
The kit consists of:
-Audi MK1 TT Caliper Carriers x2
-adam's rotors to your preference- 312mm (12.3") Front Rotor x2
Order your Stage 2 kit HERE
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Does the discount for the black hubs still apply? I added a set but it upped the price for the hubs.
no sir...there is no discount, there never was.
as posted in the OP, colored zinc is +$25, painted hubs +$50.
please also note, AR race and street patterns require painted hubs on the order.
I could have sworn you guys had some introductory offer for it. I must have read wrong.
Do you guys happen to sell the MKV GTI/GLI dust shields? I need them for front and rear brakes.
we do...
when placing your AR order, in the comment section, request we add on two front dust shields and we'll modify it onto the order. they're ~$14 each
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